tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730233429051035621.post1380135098406051583..comments2024-03-12T18:42:09.892+09:00Comments on POSITIVO ESPRESSO: Sunny Tuesdaymobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15740078823008165116noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730233429051035621.post-60619648778275267992008-04-18T13:40:00.000+09:002008-04-18T13:40:00.000+09:00Togebaka Start Point :When you come riding from Ok...Togebaka Start Point :<BR/><BR/>When you come riding from Okutama-Ko along route 139, it is pretty easy to find. You ride along the river until you come to the village (Kosuge) and there is one light where you need to turn left and cross the river.<BR/><BR/>You are right, crossing where the road coming from Tsuru Toge is intersecting is at a higher elevation, there might be only 400 - 500 m left.<BR/><BR/>But if you come from that road, you have previously crossed Tsuru Toge - so will you be attacking Matsuhime as well.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I have no particular preference, if we have actual rides let's change this one.mobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15740078823008165116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730233429051035621.post-7667771427789503552008-04-18T00:08:00.000+09:002008-04-18T00:08:00.000+09:00Happy to try the real Odarumi sometime.Michael -- ...Happy to try the real Odarumi sometime.<BR/><BR/>Michael -- I'm envious that you made it out of the city on a beautiful day. Sorry you crashed, but glad to hear you and bike are in one piece.<BR/><BR/>For Matsuhime's Togebaka, I think for your starting place you need to use the "T" intersection where, coming from Tsuru Toge, you can turn left to go up Matsuhime, or turn right to go toward Kosuge and Tabayama? I think it is only 500 meters elevation gain from there to the top (750 to 1250), but I don't have any idea where Kosuge city hall is, or whether you pass by there coming from Tsuru Touge?<BR/>Best,<BR/>DavidDavid Litthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821846303393230109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5730233429051035621.post-10855261091754720132008-04-17T07:58:00.000+09:002008-04-17T07:58:00.000+09:00Very entertaining read, Michael.It reminds me of o...Very entertaining read, Michael.<BR/><BR/>It reminds me of one of my former bosses who once popped the question: "what do you think gives the owner of a business the most satisfaction?"<BR/><BR/>Trying to be affable, I tactfully answered: "to know you are contributing to society and see your employees working diligently and in harmony".<BR/><BR/>To which this former boss replied: "Wrong! It is the freedom to chose my own holidays whenever I want!"<BR/><BR/>What a conceited moron I thought!<BR/><BR/>I know you're different though and I'm just envious you could take advantage of the nice weather yesterday!<BR/><BR/>By the way, the overnight at the onsen I proposed before is not in Kosuge (there is an onsen there but no ryokan) but in the sleepy little town of Enzan where there are about 8 or so onsen-ryokan establishments. Very nice and there is even a bar where a "sexy" lady serves Guiness (and other cocktails - some very dubious ones as well). Perfect for preparing a next-day climb of the ODARUMI-Toge (please no, it's not the Takao OTARUMI) up to 2,360 meters. We really ought to do this one with the Positivo Espresso members.the ups and downs of a belgian amateur cyclist in tokyohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10959055533465197463noreply@blogger.com